Be aware this is more likely to be a Series I Dolnet Tenor Saxophone based on the visual pictures and comments I have received from other Ebayers. On 19-Apr-21 at 18:17:48 BST, seller added the following information: Just in addition another Ebayer said this might be 19th Century Dolnet but again this definitely earlier than a Series II Saxophone. Hey guys, this is my first post. Just would like to ask a question about my Dolnet sax and hope someone might be able to answer if for me. The serial number is 30239, on saxpics it has a listing for Dolnets but says series II is number 1,200-3,400 and Bel-air is number 34,000-80,000. I have since gotten the Dolnet, New Aristo, and 26M mentioned above in and played the Dolnet and the 26M vs. The Modell 3- the New Aristo needs an overhaul first. Although the Dolnet and 26M weren’t in what I would consider perfect playing condition, the Modell 3 still won in terms of sound in my book- although the other horns look quite a. DOLNET Country of manufacture: France Production span: 1888-1994. Dolnet horns were produced in very small numbers by a small French workshop that specialized in saxes. Production of saxophones was no more than about 500 horns per year. Dolnet Tenor Sax - Bel Air? Listed: May 10th, 2017 20:53 PM: Description: Dolnet Tenor Sax. I believe this is the Bel Air model. Serial number 46695C. I've searched, but can't find an exact year of manufacture (though I'd guess some time in the 1950s) Comes with hard case and 2 necks. I'll knock $50 off if you only want one neck.
Things aren’t always what they seem! Many times an instrument stamped with one name was actually made by another manufacturer. The identity of the true maker is often impossible to trace, but here are a few of the most commonly seen “stencils” and their true identity. These horns are NOT the same as the manufacturer’s “house brand” and do NOT follow the same serial number sequence. There is almost no information available on Asian made stencils. There are plenty more out there that do not appear on this list because I am unsure of their origin. It was not at all uncommon for a company to source horns from multiple vendors, hence multiple entries.
American Artist
American Capitol
American Premier
Artist
Blessing
Bruno
Bundy
Cafaro Special
Carl Fischer
Cole & Dunas
Crusader
Ditson
Elkhart
Elkhorn
Getzen
Harwood Professional
Jenkins
Legionnaire
Lyon & Healy
Lyons Monarch
Perfactone
Royal Artist
Sherwood
Silvertone
Spangler
Supertone
The Yankee
Tom Brown
USA
Vega
Vocotone
Weymann
Windsor
Wolverine
Wurlitzer
Abbott Premier
American Artist
American First
American Hagar
American Perfecto
American Triumph
Bandmaster
Beaufort American
Bruno
Carl Fischer
Cavalier
C. J. Spangler
Cole & Dunas
Columbian
Commodore
Commoinwealth
Concertone
Continental Colonial
Crusader
Elkhart
Grand Opera
Gretsch
Hamilton
Harry Pedler
Harwood
Horace
Jenkins
Kalashians Kleartone
Kalacific
Keefer
La Pacific
Lefleur
Liberty
Lyon & Healy
Olympian
Pan American
Perfection
Pride of Elkhart
Sears & Roebuck
Selmer New York
Sherwood
Supertone
Symphony
Tom Brown
Varsity
Vega
Velvetone
Virginian
Werlein Special
Whittle Zenith
Wm. Meyer American
Wolverine
Wurlitzer
Xcelo
York
King
Lyon & Healy
Gretch
Rudy Weidoft
American Professional
American Standard
American Scholastic
Cleveland
Gladiator
Olympian
Vega
Abbott Premier
American Artist
American Perfection
American Professional
Bandmaster
Beaufort American
Bel Canto
Bettoney
Blessing
Bruno
Commander
Champion
Colonial
Concertone
Couesnon
Couturier
Dick Stabile
Diplomat
Dorn & Kirschner
Elkhart
Gary
Gold Star
Harmony
Honercomb
Horace
Indiana Band Instrument
Kingston
Knickerbocker
Lewin
Dolnet Saxophone Serial Numbers
Lyon & Healy
Lyric
Manhattan
Mastercraft
Melody Master
Midwestern
Oliver Ditson
Pedler
Perfacktone
Premier American
Reynolds
Sherwood
Standard Artists
Standard American
Supertone
Symphony
Tempertone
Wurlitzer
Vega
Viking
Acme
Artiste
Buffet Dynaction
Carl Fischer
Cartier
Community
Criterion
Diplomat
Grenadier
Hallmark
Leggett Special
Linton
Lyceum
Martel
Mercury
M. Pierre
Supreme
The Music Center
Adolphe
DeVille
Wolverine
Alexandre
Bandmaster
De Villier
Couf
Royalist
Conn DJH
Buffet
Edgeware
Marco
Corvair
Marco
Vincent Albert
Martelle
Winsall
Bundy Special
Armdstrong
Heritage
King Tempo
Champion
Calvert Deluxe
Roxy
Senator
The New King
Tone King
Olds Ambassador
Olds Parisian
Santy Runyon
Artist 300
Boucet
Carl Ludwig
Carl Schillert
Clinton
Condor
Convair
De Villiers
Diamond
Bebr. Alexander Mainz
H. Genet
Impala
Jubilee
La Sete Professional
National
Original Hopf Classic
Paragon
Pierre Maure Artiste
Rene Dumont
Roxy
Dolnet Saxophone Serial Numbers
Senator
SML
Star Tone
Symphonic
Toneline
Voss
DABICO
Genton
Huttl
LaFleur
Le Meilleur Du Monde
Lipson
Silvertone
Jean Cartier
Jules Revan
La Chambre
Alexandra
Dolnet Sax Serial Numbers
Contempra
Finnish Marigaux
King Marigaux
Jenco Harmonia
Pichard
Vedette
Woodwind
(1935 to 1984; s/n 0 thru 01xxx; earlier models not listed)
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Dolnet (pronounced DOL-NAY) is a model which has been getting steadily more popular since I started this website. There is a good reason for this: the horns are solidly made, are quite jazzy and have a fairly good sound, although there are some negative comments here and there regarding intonation. There isn't a Dolnet model or serial number chart, per se, so I essentially am creating this based on engravings, user input and manufacturing differences. As far as real Dolnet history goes, Dolnet was founded in 1880 and started manufacturing saxophones around 1888. I'm going to let guest columnist Laurie Pimblett take it from here (his commentary will always be in RED. Quotations from other sources are in BROWN): Over the years I've been exclusively collecting French saxes. Along the way I've made a small collection of Dolnets; these I regard as unknown treasures of the sax world, and I rate them very highly indeed. They are often good -- sometimes breathtaking -- and rank amongst the best saxes I've ever played! ... and the quoted and requoted line that's going around the Internet (this is Wichita Band Instruments' version): IMHO, it appears that Dolnet production parallels Buffet, SML and Couesnon production, more than Selmer: not only is the keywork design on early Dolnets similar to early SML's (and becomes similar to Buffet after about 1940), some of the Jean Cartier stencils have the beautiful Sparkle Lacquer that is most famously found on the Buffet Super Dynaction. The overall look is definitely influenced by (or influenced) Couesnon horns. All this makes me agree with David Hughes (an e-mailer): the Dolnets were produced until at least the mid-1980's, not the 1960's as many websites indicate (see also Saxophon-Service, which advocates an end date of 1984). As mentioned, there isn't an official serial number list, although there are some ranges cobbled together, below. It seems, however, that the serial number ranges incorporate the full production of ALL instruments produced by Dolnet, not just saxophones. I'd think that production of saxophones was no more than 500 horns per year. Also note that the 'Bel Air' series introduced letters after the serial number. If you see a 'C' after the serial number, it isn't a C instrument! As always, if you have further information or pictures, please contact me at saxpics@gmail.com. |
Bb Sopranos | ||
s/n 42xx Silver Plate From eBay.com | ||
If it is true that the first Dolnet saxophones were produced in 1888, these are definitely not the first saxophones that Dolnet produced, but are the earliest I've been able to find. It is possible that, like Buffet, their serial number chart has changed a couple of times. Based on these horns' keywork, I would estimate they were made in the mid- to late-1930s. |
Series II (s/n 12xx to 34xxx; 1940 to 1950) | ||||
Bb Tenors | ||||
s/n unknown Silver Plate From eBay.com | ||||
More from Mr. Pimblett: [The pictures from Sax'Melody are from] I think, a French guy who just wanted the world to see the progress he was making in his restoration of an earlier Dolnet tenor; it's a gorgeous sax and I would love to get my hands on it. It has a simple bellbrace, and instead of pearls on the keyguards it looks to have red glass or garnet -- perhaps even red amber -- which was certainly popular with the top-class British and American fishing reel manufacturers as a hardwearing and semi-precious bearing material and decoration back in the '20s -'40s. There also appears to be an 'intermediate' horn in this series without these 'gems', or it could just be that Dolnet wanted to change things for a year or two. The later horns in this series switch to the 'diamond' bell to body brace which is found on virtually all later Dolnets. |
Bel Air Series (s/n 34xxx to 80xxx; 1950 to 1970) | ||||
Bb Tenors | ||||
s/n 395xxG Thanks to Laurie Pimblett Lacquer Two-Tone Enamel Silver | ||||
My Dolnet tenor is, I think, a Belair model, but in silver. It's a big bore sax with the typical hexagonal 'Art Deco' touches to the side keys, the crook ferrule and the C/Eb cluster. The LH thumb-rest is a round pearl, as are the centres on the geometric keyguards. The crook-cork collar is rolled, like Selmer's. Keywork is (apart from the superb Dolnet octave system) otherwise conventional. Engraving is quite distinctive: elaborate concentric geometic scrolling, all emanating from what might be called a central 'cartouche' -- I think the artist was strongly influenced by the patterns in the magnetic field! The overall effect is stunning. [The 'Bel Air' model name is based on] a conversation I had with an old guy back a few years ago: he had a Bel Air tenor identical to mine, though of a slightly earlier ser. no. (within a few hundred). He bought it new in Paris back in the late 40's (though he couldn't be certain exactly when). My alto, which came from the same source, matches my tenor closely but again is not marked 'Bel Air'. My 395** tenor is probably younger by a year or two. These horns are virtually identical to the Imperial model (listed below). It's possible that Dolnet actually labelled these horns 'Bel Air' for a few years, labelled them 'Imperial' for a few years and then decided not to label them anything at all. |
Imperial Models (s/n 40xxx to 45xxx; 1952 to 1953) | ||
Bb Tenors | ||
s/n unknown From eBay.com Gold | ||
Please see the comments on the Bel Air series horns, above. It's possible that these horns were only available for this thin serial number range. |
Bb Tenors |
s/n 834xx Thanks to Laurie Pimblett Silver Plate |
Next comes something rather special, my M70 (model name engraved on the bell). This I got from a European dealer who listed it as 'a beginner's horn ... very difficult to play'. I got it for very little. It hasn't got the big sound of its older brothers, but it is one of the sweetest and most clear-voiced classical tenors I've ever played. Just recently I performed a Haydn duet with harpsichord/electric keyboard, and the audience was ecstatic about the sound: it plays the most controlled pianissimos of any of my saxes and has a lightning-fast action. Again, it has pearl touches to the keyguards which are typically Dolnet art-deco, though the engraving is quite different: this time in very beautiful series of straight and zigzagged lines in true deco style. Ser. no. 834** places it very late, possibly 1969-70. I also know that my M70 's original and battered case is one which was in production in the late 60's -- I actually remember them being sold. (Purely speculatively: could M70 stand for 'Modele (19)70'? Some manufacturers start off a new decade with a new model [e.g. the Mark VII and Super 80]. If it is true that the case is from the late 60's and this horn was only produced in the early 1970's, this might explain the extreme rarity of the sax, the significant departures from earlier Dolnet keywork and the dramatic lefthand angle on the bell.) The horn also has a redesigned G#/C#/B/Bb cluster, more 'rounded' (i.e. not 'Art Deco') keys and 'Selmeresque' lower keyrods. If you accept my theory that Dolnet borrowed heavily from Buffet design, this horn looks an awful lot like a combination of a Buffet Super Dynaction or S1 and a Buescher 400 'Top Hat and Cane'. |
Universal Models (s/n 00000 to 01xxx?; 1980 to 1984) |
These are a slightly less elaborate version of the M70: it doesn't have an offset bell and has different engraving, but otherwise appears identical to the previous model. I have heard of altos and sopranos in this serial number range. As far as I have been able to determine, this is the last model Dolnet. If the M70 was introduced in1970, I see no reason not to believe that these horns were introduced in 1980. |
Jean Cartier Stencils ('Bel Air' Stencil) | ||||
Bb Tenors | ||||
s/n 78621c From eBay.com Two-Tone | ||||
These are one of the few stencils I've ever seen that actually have MORE features than the horn they were stencilled from There are at least two models of these horns: 'The Royal Jazz Model', which sometimes has additional keywork (altissimo D# trill, G# trill, etc.), rolled tone holes and a microtuner neck, a la Conn and one sometimes labeled 'Artist Model' that generally doesn't have all the additional stuff, but is striking, nonetheless. As mentioned in the introduction, these models sometimes have been done in Sparkle Lacquer, like some Buffet Superdynactions. I've now seen two of these models, so I doubt that these horns were relacquers. |
Jules Revan Stencil ('Imperial' Stencil) | ||
Eb Altos | ||
s/n 41509 Thanks to Junkdude Lacquer | ||
Please see the comments on the Bel Air and Imperial series horns, above. |
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